What is luxury today for you? How can you describe this difficult word?
Today, because of corona, luxury is not having corona, luxury is living in Bali – I think, living in Bali, and see my parents in Paris, my brothers in Washington DC…
So, luxury could be a travel?
Travel would be luxury, yes. You cannot really travel properly nowadays, you know. Especially with the family and stuff like that. So I think luxury is being in Bali, because we're outdoors, we are not confined to a small space. There aren't many tourists, so there's no traffic, no pollution, we can go out and about, you can still ride your bicycle, so I consider myself lucky to be in another luxury of Bali.
Chris, the last question. A little bit complicated one.We speak always about etiquette, culinary rules… What about professional jokes? Do you have your favorite one?
Actually, humor in the kitchen is always a bit gross, it's not very proper humor that we use in the kitchen – I'm not really sure why, maybe because we spend 14 hours a day standing up, cutting ourselves and burning ourselves, so I don't think I can share any jokes that we tell each other in the kitchen, but there's one that only a chef will understand. But hopefully you have chefs watching this, so…
You know – when you work in the kitchen you'll probably… I'll try to recall when I worked for example in Paris or New York – I would go to work at 7 a.m. and I would leave work around midnight. We'll get home at 1, go to bed at maybe 2, and would have to wake up at probably 5:30. So that's the normal life of a chef and the salary that we got was not enough to rent an apartment, so we had to share apartments between several chefs. So you're working long hours, you don't make any money, and then when you're at work, the chef is screaming at you all the time, and because there's so much pressure, and you're standing, and you're tired, and you don't sleep enough, you tend to burn and cut yourself a lot, because you make mistakes, you know. And we were drinking 14 coffees a day, just to stay awake. So if you can think like that, then you can think like a chef. And we always used to ask each other: "What are we doing here? Why are we here? We get screamed at, we get no pay, you know, we get treated like shit, you know, so why are we here?" And we used to always say: "We're here for the glory." Which is not funny. But in the kitchen, when you're tired, everybody laughed a lot. So, let's say that's a chef's joke. Yeah. We're not here for the money, we're not here for the love that we get from the chef, we're just here for the glory. But there is no glory, because nobody knows who we are, so it's gloom, it's a dark humor, French humor, maybe.
Maybe. Maybe French, yes. Professional one.
That's right. Professional, sarcastic. Yeah.
Thank you Chris for your time, for the interview, it was a pleasure.
Thank you very much. Thanks for listening to my jokes.
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